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October 4th, 2009

openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard

Posted by Jason Perlow @ 12:25 pm

Categories: Desktop, Free operating systems, General, Linux, Open Source

Tags: GNOME, KDE, openSUSE 11, KDE 4.3, Open Source, Jason Perlow

Ubuntu’s Karmic Koala isn’t the only hot Linux beta floating around. On October 1, the openSUSE project released Milestone 8 of openSUSE 11.2, which is slated for general release in November, just in time for the holiday season. Milestone 8 will precede two release candidates to be also released in October, but contains the final aesthetic and branding bits for the final version.

Tech Broiler openSUSE 11.2 M8 Video Tour

The openSUSE 11.2 installer, which is essentially the same polished installer from the previous version and needed very little improvement, now installs the KDE 4.3 UI as the default user choice, although GNOME 2.28 can also be selected.

In my last reviews of openSUSE 11.1 and openSUSE 11, I had a number of stability issues with KDE 4.0 and 4.2 which led me to stick with the GNOME interface. However, there had been numerous reports on various mailing lists and community discussion forums that KDE 4.3 is now the fully “baked” version of 4.x, so I wanted to give KDE 4 a go again. I’m glad I did.

Click on the “Read the rest of this entry” link below for more.

As with Ubuntu’s Karmic Koala, openSUSE 11.2 will use the very latest 2.6.31 kernel and use the new ext4 file system. End-users will have the option of downloading openSUSE as either a DVD which contains both the KDE and GNOME as well as XFCE UIs, or as as 2 separate flavors of Live CD, each with a KDE and GNOME version which is similar to the way Ubuntu is distributed, as Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu.

Gallery: openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 8

As with any openSUSE release 11.2 will be jam-packed with all of the latest Open Source software, including the superior Go-Oo.org build of OpenOffice.org. But clearly I think this is the first distribution that will really make the desktop Linux naysayers, especially the Mac crowd, go “Wow!”

That “Wow” factor is KDE 4.3. KDE 4.x is a radical departure from the 3.5.x series, which has always been considered more Windows XP-like in its general UI model, although it has featured a great deal of object-oriented technology that Windows didn’t have and still lacks. While GNOME 2.x is stable and certainly very usable, it never had the sex appeal of something like OS X or even Windows 7, and from a raw technology standpoint does not have the object-oriented features of modern UI’s such as Mac OS X or KDE.

Miguel de Icaza’s Mono software development framework and C# implementation (and Bonobo prior to Mono, which had good ideas but failed to catch on due to its unwieldiness) has been moving to change that, but there has been some resistance to bringing a full-blown object-oriented development model into mainstream Linux desktops.

openSUSE’s implementation of KDE 4.3 finally gives the Open Source and Linux community something to brag about from a UI technology perspective, and in many ways I feel it is superior to both Windows 7, in both the underpinning technology and from a usability standpoint. It is also at least at parity in terms of object oriented technology with Mac OS X, and Qt 4’s cross-platform nature may actually give KDE an edge over Mac’s Cocoa. KDE 4.3 is pretty and functional, proving that Open Source advocates that choose a Linux OS for their desktop can have their cake, eat it as well as flaunt it.

Like Windows 7 and Mac OS X, openSUSE’s KDE 4.3 implementation supports floatable “widgets” that are mini-apps that float about the desktop, such as resource utilization monitors and weather forecast applets, just to name a few. The system includes an integrated web browser/file system browser, Konqueror, which incorporates the very same KHTML/Webkit page rendering engine that is used in Mac OS X’s Safari browser and for the iPhone. openSUSE 11.2 also provides Firefox 3.5.3 for those die-hards that would rather use Mozilla’s software and browser plugins.

KDE 4.x also has a dedicated file manager utility, Dolphin, which is similar to a Norton Commander type of utility and is roughly analogous to GNOME’s Nautilus UI, whereas Konqueror is more similar in function and look and feel to Windows 7’s “Explorer”. Eventually I’d like to see Dolphin and Konqueror moved into one single seamless UI because I feel that regular end users might find some confusion in their overlapping functionality.

While openSUSE 11.2 is still in beta and not even release candidate stages, I will say that despite my enthusiasm for the KDE 4.3 implementation, which is indeed looking very nice, I still notice that openSUSE’s default security settings are set so that SMB networking traffic is blocked. I also had to add SAMBA 3.4 manually, but this may not be reflective of the final product. These were issues I had with both openSUSE 11 and 11.1, and I really think the project should consider turning on SAMBA and letting the SMB protocol through the firewall by default, just as Ubuntu does.

I haven’t used openSUSE as my main Linux desktop OS for a while — that honor, at least for the last few years, has gone to Ubuntu. But could openSUSE 11.2 and it’s sexy KDE 4.3 implementation bring me back? Perhaps, perhaps.

Have you been playing with openSUSE 11.2 M8 or KDE 4.3? Talk Back and Let Me Know.

Jason PerlowJason Perlow is a technologist with over two decades of experience integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Posted by: Me_too Posted on: 10/08/09  (Edited: 10/08/09 @ 02:54) You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Sorry. Ubuntu 9.10 is simply put together better. Parts is Parts.  D. T. Schmitz | 10/04/09
im looking forward to 9.10 this october (nt)  privatejarhead | 10/04/09
Unless you prefer KDE of course.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/04/09
I probably should revisit KDE 4.3 and yes I was a SuSE/KDE 3.5.x devotee  D. T. Schmitz | 10/05/09
YES  Tim Patterson | 10/05/09
I have to ask - isn't KDE like the Win3.1 UI a startbar?  de-void | 10/05/09
Not to pick nits......  LazLong | 10/05/09
So, you're saying that KDE is using the same tired old UI as Win 3.1  de-void | 10/05/09
I was going by your title...  LazLong | 10/05/09
"the Metaphor for ui's is generally similar" because of a lack of balls  de-void | 10/05/09
@de-void I don't see it that way...  LazLong | 10/05/09
@de-void, you mean like that KDE-like taskbar...  UAC nanny screen | 10/05/09
@not_nice  shadfurman | 10/05/09
As an add-on...  kaninelupus | 10/06/09
@shadfurman  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
unfortunately I have to agree...  shadfurman | 10/05/09
Come back when Windows can pin windows  deaf_e_kate | 10/06/09
M$ Harpooned de-void in the Ice Age w/it's Flea Bitten OS! grin  i2fun@... | 10/06/09
Windows is capable of entering the freeway  Me_too | 10/06/09
Oh man, your post is hilarious...  tek_heretik | 10/08/09
What are you talking about? Win 7 is a KDE clone  T1Oracle | 10/05/09
Customization has a cost.  de-void | 10/05/09
For home users  UAC nanny screen | 10/05/09
Strength?  rahbm | 10/06/09
Exactly  Tim Patterson | 10/05/09
dude, he wasn't bashing, everyone knows it's free. Chill out. (nt)  shadfurman | 10/05/09
Other way around  kaninelupus | 10/06/09
The MS Windows UI is a good one ...  Golodh2 | 10/06/09
Nope  Tim Patterson | 10/05/09
Ubuntu is GNOME.  D. T. Schmitz | 10/05/09
Ubuntu is better put together  davidr69 | 10/05/09
Yup...  kaninelupus | 10/06/09
Pot / kettle  rahbm | 10/06/09
Windows Bigot?  kaninelupus | 10/07/09
trying to start a distro war?  tmsbrdrs | 10/08/09
Sorry, but Ubuntu & SuSE are Ford Pintos next to the Ferrari of Linux! grin  i2fun@... | 10/05/09
I do not like your attitude but THANKS  Me_too | 10/07/09
Get over the attitude  tmsbrdrs | 10/08/09
Ya, cause parts is parts....  kaninelupus | 10/06/09
We each have our favorite distro...  richdave | 10/04/09
CrunchBang! Linux  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/04/09
Yup  Tim Patterson | 10/05/09
Linux Mint  danmarce | 10/05/09
Hmmm  kaninelupus | 10/06/09
Wrong on all counts  rahbm | 10/06/09
OK buddy boy  kaninelupus | 10/07/09
Thanks for the link to Linux Mint  Me_too | 10/07/09
What's with the task bar anyways?  CobraA1 | 10/04/09
How do you pronounce Suse?  mgeddes@... | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  Loverock Davidson | 10/04/09
Boring. Same old same old. We want Mike Cox.  D. T. Schmitz | 10/05/09
Attention Everyone,  The Mentalist | 10/05/09
No effort involved  rahbm | 10/06/09
3.2  IT_User | 10/05/09
The problem is that Lovey is...  NetArch. | 10/06/09
You've really declined.  DevGuy_z | 10/05/09
Finally!  1djk1 | 10/05/09
I would be completly free of it mayself-  mjolnar@... | 10/05/09
Get rid of it!  The Mentalist | 10/05/09
So is it better to keep a copy of Windoze...  UAC nanny screen | 10/05/09
Didn't you mean...  zkiwi | 10/05/09
Who would want this guy in the Linux community anyway.  mjolnar@... | 10/05/09
A couple corrections...  zak89 | 10/05/09
As a Windows user...  kaninelupus | 10/06/09
Linux is just plain ugly.  eprisencc | 10/04/09
"Linux is just plain hard on the eyes"  Dave32265 | 10/04/09
@ eprisencc ...Tell me, oh sage......have you run 11.2 ?  TonyOz | 10/05/09
Why does he need to download SuSE?  storm14k | 10/05/09
Are you sure it is Linux?  The Mentalist | 10/05/09
Drum roll....symbol smash  D. T. Schmitz | 10/05/09
Maybe you should stop running fvwm  davidr69 | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  spartan2276 | 10/05/09
This IS SPARTA! Ah hem. Sorry. Roger that!  D. T. Schmitz | 10/05/09
See the previous article on my blog this week.  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 10/05/09
Just more of the same  frgough | 10/05/09
Ubuntu shouts: "I'm way better than OS X!" openSUSE replies: "Me Too!"  The Mentalist | 10/05/09
More like....  Dave32265 | 10/05/09
Yes, down the road Linux will do Y and Z  frgough | 10/05/09
So?...  Dave32265 | 10/05/09
Getting out of the gate first  Viva la crank dodo | 10/05/09
I'm a bit confused?  storm14k | 10/05/09
and FREE  oldbaritone | 10/05/09
STILL the me, too  Me_too | 10/07/09
How about display configuration?  pjotr123 | 10/05/09
Always been able to do that - its part of Yast  deaf_e_kate | 10/06/09
Display Config  zak89 | 10/08/09
So, after watching the video  frgough | 10/05/09
What "file system limitation"?  de-void | 10/05/09
The Start Menu  frgough | 10/05/09
Trying to make it ...  Dave32265 | 10/05/09
Ermmmm ... no.  de-void | 10/05/09
When you say 99%  Viva la crank dodo | 10/05/09
Your argument is mutually exclusive ...  de-void | 10/05/09
Your argument is mutually exclusive ...  UAC nanny screen | 10/05/09
I agree  Viva la crank dodo | 10/06/09
Copied some, innovated a lot  kimvette | 10/05/09
Win95 seemed more like a ripoff of Norton Desktop than anything else  UAC nanny screen | 10/05/09
What exactly is Linux copying?  storm14k | 10/05/09
What exactly is Linux copying?  UAC nanny screen | 10/05/09
I think he means  People | 10/05/09
"asinine file system"  Dave32265 | 10/05/09
This is from a guy that thinks it's tough to install Linux?  mjolnar@... | 10/05/09
A question or 2 about OS X window manager  deaf_e_kate | 10/06/09
gnomes capabilities  tmsbrdrs | 10/08/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  DannyO_0x98 | 10/05/09
how the gecko will this ever be adopted by the masses?  nessrapp | 10/05/09
To make life easy: here's help.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/05/09
Can I find a place where these options are compared?  storm14k | 10/05/09
True...  Dave32265 | 10/05/09
Must be  oldbaritone | 10/05/09
I've always been partial to OpenSuse...  JM1981 | 10/05/09
Well said.  oldbaritone | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  erniem1970@... | 10/05/09
Steve Jobs to Bills Gates  tmsbrdrs | 10/08/09
Looking Forward to 11.2  Alan Smithie | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  ctbw | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  richard.e.morton@... | 10/05/09
Wow, what a sales pitch.  Narg | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  adams484@... | 10/05/09
start planning your presentations, please  vekaz@... | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  hwattys | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  NeoGraven | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  DarkLynx | 10/05/09
RE: Taste the difference via susestudio.com/  brian@... | 10/05/09
Way cool award. (nt)  People | 10/05/09
Re: susestudio.com  Me_too | 10/08/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  windozefreak | 10/05/09
What sets apart SUSE from the rest is YaST  People | 10/05/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  alka_trash@... | 10/05/09
Agreed  Golodh2 | 10/06/09
Concur.  People | 10/08/09
commercial support sorely missing Linux  Me_too | 10/08/09
First off, SuSE is NOT pronounced...  tek_heretik | 10/06/09
Not worth the electricity...  tek_heretik | 10/06/09
it _IS_ pronounced ...  scorp123 | 10/06/09
I am also German born in Canada but...  tek_heretik | 10/08/09
You're confused...  dave@... | 10/06/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  murtyvonna | 10/06/09
Kubuntu Koala  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 10/06/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  JasonSmith182 | 10/06/09
LInux is finally matching Windows 3.1 capabilities...nt  transposeIT | 10/07/09
3.1? QEMM/DeskView was superior - even on a 286...  ~doolittle~ | 10/08/09
RE: openSUSE 11.2 M8: What a Fine Lookin' Lizard  mr.solution | 10/07/09

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