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August 11th, 2008

Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!

Posted by Jason Perlow @ 8:49 am

Categories: Desktop, Linux, Microsoft, Open Source, Software Infrastructure

Tags: novell inc., microsoft silverlight, streaming video, microsoft corp., de icaza, linux, web site development, web technology, open source, digital video

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It’s not often when a piece of  technology impresses me enough that I do the “wow” thing when I’m using it. But the Silverlight streaming video implementation on NBCOlympics.com is truly awesome, even if I am forced into using Internet Explorer to watch it (EDIT: It seems Firefox 3 support was rolled out 2 weeks after I installed the plugin for IE7 on my XP box, so go ahead and try it).

Click on the “Read the rest of this entry” link below for more.

Sure, streaming video with integrated interactive content is nothing new, and fundamentally Silverlight doesn’t do a ton of things different that similar technologies such as Flash 10 aren’t already capable of. But given how stable the software is, even it its current beta state, and how well the Limelight Networks and Akamai caching is working (no, the Internet didn’t melt over the weekend but pageviews haven’t peaked to levels where it could happen yet) I have to give Microsoft and its technology partners that pulled this off for the Olympics a huge round of applause.

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Yeah, it would have been nice to be able to watch the Olympics event playbacks and live feeds on Linux using Moonlight.  But right now, Moonlight only supports Silverlight 1.0 apps, and NBCOlympics.com is implemented using 2.0. As Novell’s chief Mono/Moonlight developer, Miguel de Icaza told me several weeks ago before the NBCOlympics content launch, “Work on this has started, but it will take a lot of work. And sadly, there are very few people willing to contribute to make this happen on time.”

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Now, one could get all huffy and puffy and blame Microsoft on this state of affairs, but in this case, I have to lay this problem strictly at the feet of the Open Source community. I know for a fact that De Icaza and Microsoft have pretty much a completely open relationship, they give him free flowing access to all the .NET API documentation and their developers, he spends a good amount of time on the Microsoft campus in Redmond, and Novell and Microsoft are committed to both making .NET run on Linux. However, Novell and Microsoft can only do so much to have the community contribute efforts to keep .NET development at pace on Linux with Windows. De Icaza is a brilliant programmer, but he needs help. One guy can only produce so much.

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Silverlight is a cool technology, and Mono/Moonlight is Open Source. Yes, Flash 10 is better supported on Linux, and it comes from a company that has a vastly superior history in supporting multiple platforms and Open Source OSes, but I don’t see Adobe opening the source code to Flash anytime soon — if they did, maybe I would feel better about it as an industry dynamic content standard. In this case, despite the political correctness of  the situation and Novell’s choice to support Microsoft’s technology and standards it has hampered the adoption of what I feel is superior technology.

Got some C# skills and want to help Miguel get Moonlight up to 2.0 specs? Fire up your IRC chat client, go to IRC.GNOME.ORG and channel #moonlight, and chat with his merry band of developers. Or shoot Miguel an email at miguel AT ximian DOT com.

Do you want a fully functional Silverlight 2.0 browser plugin for your Open Source OS? Talk Back and let me know.

Jason PerlowJason Perlow is a technologist with over two decades of experience integrating large heterogeneous multi-vendor computing environments in Fortune 500 companies. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!  D-T-Schmitz | 08/11/08
Have some milk and cookies...  xuniL_z | 08/14/08
What OS were you using?  LBiege | 08/11/08
This has to be a new development  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 08/11/08
Installation is a bit tricky  LBiege | 08/11/08
The next one you'll be using... and liking it.  kozmcrae | 08/11/08
Did you read the article?  tikigawd | 08/12/08
time-limited application  littlenoodles | 08/12/08
That is not the point  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
More to the point, Jason, is...  TtfnJohn | 08/12/08
Because it's a Microsoft controlled technology...  SpikeyMike | 08/13/08
I'm running FF3 on WinXP machine  techvet | 08/11/08
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They don't veryfy your Cable affiliation  tikigawd | 08/12/08
Works fine with Firefox or Safari on Mac or Windows  marksashton | 08/11/08
I agee  zmud | 08/11/08
It's funny how M$ actually helped OSS  LBiege | 08/11/08
"All OF A sudden" (nt)  tikigawd | 08/12/08
Open Source does not mean Eunuchs  tonymcs@... | 08/13/08
Huh?  Techref6060 | 08/19/08
Unless it's one of the millions of PPC macs  j.m.galvin | 08/11/08
and?  doh123 | 08/13/08
Ya'll missing the fine details of Intel only  fairuse09 | 08/13/08
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4% ?  elderlybloke | 08/13/08
re: You're behind on your stats  relwolf | 08/17/08
Tip of the cap  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 08/11/08
Care to explain more why this was such a succesful implementation?  Roque Mocan | 08/11/08
RE: Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!  smartkl | 08/11/08
No.  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 08/11/08
Limelight Networks are a Microsoft partner  jhansonxi | 08/11/08
Doesn't work on millions of Macs either  j.m.galvin | 08/11/08
I don't think the FOSS community wants it.  storm14k | 08/11/08
RE: Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!  zeke123 | 08/11/08
uh ...  LBiege | 08/11/08
RE: Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!  eldonw | 08/11/08
You blame the community for Microsoft's failure to release on all platforms  luch3 | 08/11/08
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.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/11/08
I don't know who coined it....  James T. Kirk | 08/12/08
AMEN!nt  USTechHead | 08/12/08
Huh - on the spot metrics...pick a percentage any percentage...  USTechHead | 08/12/08
Still less than 1%  tonymcs@... | 08/13/08
OK it's great  Techref6060 | 08/19/08
"I want to know why there isn't a CP/M and DOS version. "  bmerc | 08/12/08
Extremely old, out of date and doesn't work with modern hardware  tonymcs@... | 08/13/08
Some corrections:  Joel R | 08/19/08
Quick...  jackbond | 08/11/08
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how many people in the world are using linux?  jk_10 | 08/12/08
"i used to do linux making a living"  bmerc | 08/12/08
everybody who uses Google...  bbneo | 08/12/08
RE: Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!  wanderson | 08/12/08
Rebutt  Tim Patterson | 08/12/08
Ever heard of MSNBC?  davidr69 | 08/12/08
RE: Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!  wolvie3421 | 08/12/08
That is indeed slick  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 08/12/08
"AFAIK, you can't do this in flash. "  bmerc | 08/12/08
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For the first time  tracy anne | 08/12/08
RE: You are so weak.  spinit | 08/13/08
SilverLight?  elderlybloke | 08/13/08
1% no it's 20%  tonymcs@... | 08/13/08
No Moonlight? Eh, no video would me more right...  Mitch 74 | 08/14/08
Here's one way to get it working on linux  ZDNET_guest666 | 08/15/08
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RE: Ok, I admit it. I love NBCOlympics.com! Now go make it work on Linux!  jscott418 | 08/18/08

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