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June 30th, 2009

Failing with online backup

Posted by Michael Krigsman @ 4:03 pm

Categories: CIO issues, Enterprise 2.0, IT issues, SaaS, PaaS, and SOA

Tags: Online Backup, Carbonite, Mozy, Backups, Michael Krigsman

Seeking to back up 350GB in safe, reliable, off-site storage, I tried Carbonite and Mozy, two of the most respected names in the online backup market. Both products failed miserably to achieve my goals, each one in a perversely different way.

Carbonite offers a simple, set-and-forget solution that should make life easy. In my case, something bad happened along the way because I can no longer restore files reliably. This screen capture shows what happens when I try to restore files using the company’s remote access feature:

As you can see, Carbonite can’t find my selected file. Would this message inspire confidence that your backup is safe?

Carbonite tech support was quite helpful trying to diagnose and solve the problem. However, my luck ran out after support submitted the issue to the developers for further research and fixing. At that stage, support essentially said the developers will handle my issue when they want, with no time horizon and not even a pat on the back.

Based on that interaction, I decided to try Mozy instead.

Mozy takes a somewhat more configurable approach to its backup software, which I like. I transferred the first 200GB of data to Mozy with no problems and reasonably fast upload speeds of 1.5Mbps. Recently, however, my upload speed decreased to a level where large backups are no longer practical. This dialog box shows my current upload rate, which is slower than a dialup modem:

Mozy support is singularly unhelpful, sending canned solutions and ignoring the actual problem descriptions in my emails.

My new backup solution. Since the need for offsite backup remains, I plan to install a remote hard drive at a friend’s house and use a backup program to transfer my data for safekeeping.

Given the economics of software as a service (SaaS) vendors, poor support is hardly a surprise. These vendors survive by keeping costs low, so they can offer inexpensive prices to consumers. Both Carbonite and Mozy charge about five bucks a month, which doesn’t leave much room for in-depth customer assistance.

My lousy backup experience illustrates both positive and negative aspects of cheap cloud computing. When the cloud works, everything is great; but woe unto him (or her) that hits a speed bump.

Update 7/3/09: Following this post, I heard from David Friend, CEO of Carbonite, who was clearly distressed by the state of affairs. He said Carbonite identified the bug causing the problems and will issue a fix.

I did receive a perfunctory follow-up email from Mozy support asking whether their previous suggestions were helpful. I responded by suggesting they read this post.

Michael KrigsmanMichael Krigsman is CEO of Asuret, Inc., a software and consulting company dedicated to reducing software implementation failures. Click here to discuss this post with him on Twitter. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Ah, the joys of online backup  unredeemed | 06/30/09
I assume you work for Backup Exec?  mkrigsman@...ZDNet Moderator | 06/30/09
get your names right.  unredeemed | 06/30/09
Large backups impractical to Cloud  mcwong | 07/01/09
Success with both with 40GB of backups  dancrawford | 07/01/09
pcAnywhere is the only...  bjbrock | 06/30/09
rsync  pgit | 07/01/09
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Of course I paid  mkrigsman@...ZDNet Moderator | 06/30/09
RE: Failing with online backup  RobEllison | 06/30/09
Design suggestion for Cucku ...  johnfenjackson@... | 07/01/09
Re: Design suggestion for Cucku  RobEllison | 07/01/09
Internet Speed is THE PROBLEM!  hnoyes | 07/01/09
Re: Internet Speed is THE PROBLEM!  RobEllison | 07/01/09
Hybrid Solution  john@... | 07/01/09
Come on!  jro211@... | 07/01/09
The math  bt8 | 07/01/09
RE: Failing with online backup  TomParris | 06/30/09
A 350 gb internet backup seems like a waste  Rob Oakes | 06/30/09
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symantec protection network  sparkle farkle | 07/01/09
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Symantec  compudog | 07/03/09
From home? Consider the ISP's role  sphtest | 07/01/09
I investigated this  mkrigsman@...ZDNet Moderator | 07/01/09
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JungleDisk?  CobraA1 | 07/01/09
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Happy with Carbonite  petaloutha@... | 07/01/09
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RE: Failing with online backup  NavyStore | 07/01/09
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RE: Keep It Simple  gdstark13 | 07/01/09
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Failing with online backup  compudog | 07/03/09
RE: Failing with online backup  pmurin@... | 07/01/09
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JungleDisk ...  ron.connal@... | 07/01/09
Have to agree with many people here . . .  CobraA1 | 07/01/09
Have to agree  compudog | 07/03/09
Also why do none seem to allow NAS backups?  rschoonh@... | 07/01/09
Re: Also why do none seem to allow NAS backups?  RobEllison | 07/01/09
Crashplan allows this  Steve Goldman | 07/02/09
Mozy is garbage and should be outlawed  mreilly19 | 07/01/09
Speak for yourself, not for others  chidino | 07/01/09
Excellent points  mkrigsman@...ZDNet Moderator | 07/02/09
Hello, Mozy representative!  mreilly19 | 07/13/09
ANOTHER point-misser  compudog | 07/03/09
The point you missed...  mreilly19 | 07/15/09
Laptop computers stolen  GoalieEd | 07/01/09
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Because Tech Changes....  Rich_077 | 07/02/09
Why are YOU bothering US with this again?  compudog | 07/03/09
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Backup Axiom #1  allenfalcon | 07/02/09
local mirroring  mkrigsman@...ZDNet Moderator | 07/03/09
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NAS  TripleII | 07/03/09
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