It has begun...
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
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I don't think it'll be as bad as Windows has it ....
kingtj | 09/25/09
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This is not an inherent weakness in Windows.
ye | 09/25/09
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What the system asks of developers is part of the design
Steven Rogers | 09/25/09
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The systems didn't "ask" for such a design.
ye | 09/25/09
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You seem to forget...
RocketEater | 09/25/09
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No, I did not forget.
ye | 09/25/09
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It's quite simple ...
de-void | 09/25/09
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Why?
Lester Young | 09/25/09
|
   
Two things
stano360 | 09/25/09
|
    
Pure ignorance of the Mac
macadam | 09/25/09
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The Mac version of Quick Books isn't on par with the Windows version.
ye | 09/25/09
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Some ignorance of Quicken/Quickbooks
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
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What the system asks of developers and users...
ChrisGnyc | 09/25/09
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But wrong. nt
ye | 09/25/09
|
   
Breaking the rules...
Wolfie2K3 | 09/25/09
|
  
Windows vs Mac...
prof123 | 09/25/09
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Re: Windows vs Mac..
JT82 | 09/25/09
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Windows UAC
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
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The reason for the reduction is simple:
ye | 09/25/09
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Not good.
jdbukis@... | 09/25/09
|
     
Anything from the internet
proadventurer | 09/25/09
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Mac vs. PC(a true analysis)
daMan25 | 09/25/09
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Well Said - nt
ItsTheBottomLine | 09/25/09
|
    
One LARGE hole in your assertions
JoeBob_z | 09/25/09
|
     
Windows user has no more to worry about than the Mac user.
ye | 09/25/09
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Priceless
honeymonster | 09/25/09
|
     
Blind Faith
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
     
honeymonster relies on swiss dimwittedness
HerbertH_02 | 09/25/09
|
     
@ ye
athynz | 09/25/09
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@athynz:OK...which is it? Do we argue default state or not?
ye | 09/25/09
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@HerbertH_02
JM1981 | 09/28/09
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Are you really this ignorant?
baileysc | 09/29/09
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Patching isn't the same as the successful exploits in Windows
Mikael_z | 09/25/09
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The problem is most of the successful exploits were patched...
ye | 09/25/09
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Who gives a sh*t if they've patched it or not...
Mikael_z | 09/25/09
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@Mikael_z: Those millions of people should care.
ye | 09/25/09
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Hey genius.....
daMan25 | 09/25/09
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Apple claimed 91% of the revenue market share for computers costing $1,000+
Mikael_z | 09/25/09
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@Mikael_z: The market share argument is sound.
ye | 09/26/09
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@Mikael
daMan25 | 09/26/09
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Type one vulnerabilities exist on OS X too.
ye | 09/25/09
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Check your facts a bit
mechBgon | 09/25/09
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Type 2 scenario
fitguy7x5 | 09/25/09
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One small clarification.
ye | 09/25/09
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The admin password myth
joblak@... | 09/25/09
|
   
Yes No doesn't matter...
deowll | 09/26/09
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No Type 1
rag@... | 09/28/09
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But type one is possible.
ye | 09/28/09
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Hmm
Evilyn | 09/28/09
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yeah, being the environment means u get poisoned
gabrielbear@... | 09/25/09
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Low bar
jregooden | 09/25/09
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Not very low.
ye | 09/25/09
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problem is management
Dave Keays | 09/25/09
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When I say developers I'm talking about the companies...
ye | 09/25/09
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Maybe not Windows by itself...
arminw | 09/25/09
|
   
Care to join us in 2009?
ye | 09/25/09
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and yet...
rwahrens1952 | 09/25/09
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This is the best response you could muster?
ye | 09/25/09
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I guess it must be concluded that...
zkiwi | 09/25/09
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@zkiwi:If someone chooses to continue using a product for which...
ye | 09/25/09
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@ye
zkiwi | 09/27/09
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@zkiwi: Wow are you reaching.
ye | 09/27/09
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@ye: When's the last time you were on dialup?
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
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@vulpine: Do you have a source for this average?
ye | 09/28/09
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@ye
zkiwi | 09/29/09
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@zkiwi: The reference was patches, not service packs.
ye | 09/29/09
|
 
you make valid points, but...
ericesque | 09/25/09
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It goes beyond the user in Windows. The flaw is in design.
i8thecat | 09/25/09
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Windows only listens to ports for services being offered.
ye | 09/25/09
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LOL!
RocketEater | 09/25/09
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LOL is always my reaction to i8thecat's comments.
ericesque | 09/25/09
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Cat, I have to disagree. And I'm a lifetime Apple user.
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
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We still have machines running conficker
deowll | 09/26/09
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Virii???
nfhiggs@... | 09/25/09
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I think it will be worse
Snarfiorix | 09/25/09
|
 
Developer's Neglect
joel@... | 09/25/09
|
  
There lies the problem - a design flaw
prof123 | 09/25/09
|
   
Speaking of design flaws...
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
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I believe you're referring to a Shatter attack. And it's been fixed...
ye | 09/25/09
|
    
Yes it is
jdbukis@... | 09/25/09
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No it can't....
i8thecat | 09/25/09
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@i8thecat: Yes, it can.
ye | 09/25/09
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There are clear separations.
ye | 09/25/09
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"This is not an inherent weakness in Windows' security."
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
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They have a couple of things in place. One of them...
ye | 09/25/09
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Then why, if I may ask, ye,...
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
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@vulpine: They're not intended "for Microsoft use only".
ye | 09/25/09
|
     
Be fair
RocketEater | 09/25/09
|
     
Then, ye, why aren't they?
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
|
     
@vulpine: No, it does not.
ye | 09/25/09
|
  
UAC's purpose in life?
Dave Keays | 09/25/09
|
   
In the case of Quicken....
Lester Young | 09/25/09
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Its the Mac users...
arminw | 09/25/09
|
   
I wish that were true
macadam | 09/25/09
|
   
RE: Its the Mac users...
Grayeye | 09/25/09
|
    
...
TSH4Life@... | 09/25/09
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that is not what he said
Dave Keays | 09/25/09
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we macrobes...
bobzaguy | 09/25/09
|
   
Generalize much?
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
   
BS
wcb42ad | 09/25/09
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He said "PC buyers," not "PC builders."
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
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bunko (nt)
JonWayn | 09/25/09
|
 
Intuit drags their feet
mswift@... | 09/25/09
|

ditto
craig@... | 09/25/09
|

It has begun... ?? !! ??
JoeBob_z | 09/25/09
|
 
An attack from an infected link....
Lester Young | 09/25/09
|
  
You would be right, but...
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|
   
Your forgot
rtk | 09/28/09
|
   
RE you might be right but?
j-mccurdy@... | 09/28/09
|

Malware
chromeronin | 09/25/09
|
 
Coupled with the repository system and package manager
tracy anne | 09/26/09
|

Ho Hum
tracy anne | 09/25/09
|

I give it 6 months!
FiOS-Dave | 09/25/09
|
 
see how bad all browsers other than IE8 are at stopping the majo
tracy anne | 09/25/09
|
 
You lose your bet...
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|

Nope.
AzuMao | 09/28/09
|

But what if.....
eldernorm | 09/30/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
armith@... | 09/25/09
|

High price
jeremychappell | 09/26/09
|
 
Windows commands 55 cents/system bounty.
ye | 09/26/09
|
  
Hmm
jeremychappell | 09/28/09
|
   
Take your argument up with Symantec.
ye | 09/28/09
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Ya, Symantec is such a great, unbiased company.
AzuMao | 09/29/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
owner@... | 09/25/09
|

Riiiiight
proadventurer | 09/25/09
|

Not really
Dave Keays | 09/25/09
|

WOW. Just WOW
eldernorm | 09/25/09
|
 
Millions of Macs are infected????
prof123 | 09/25/09
|
  
Millions of Macs
boomchuck1 | 09/25/09
|
  
Macs Users
wcb42ad | 09/25/09
|
  
Well...
jeremychappell | 09/28/09
|
 
Where's your link??? There are no real virii for the mac....
i8thecat | 09/25/09
|
  
Here's your link @ Kaspersky
mechBgon | 09/25/09
|
   
Still...
jeremychappell | 09/28/09
|
    
I agree, but what was your point?
mechBgon | 09/28/09
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It's just what Apple deserves.
GrizzledGeezer | 09/25/09
|

Nothing like a cold plate of spite served fresh in the morning!
ericesque | 09/25/09
|

Shortsighted and rather dumb
rhon@... | 09/25/09
|
 
And you would be wrong.
IT_Guy_z | 09/25/09
|
  
Err
jeremychappell | 09/28/09
|

Deserves?
trm1945 | 09/25/09
|
 
Then Mac and Linux users should get over their invinciblility complex...
ericesque | 09/25/09
|
  
If it were only that simple.
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|

The only ones who deserve it......
Lester Young | 09/25/09
|
 
Explain to me, if you can, what 'tripe' you're talking about.
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|
  
Easy: They're not really patched.
ye | 09/28/09
|

Uh...
rag@... | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
psion@... | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
woot! | 09/25/09
|

let's get serious about the "bounty"
tbroberts02 | 09/25/09
|

By that logic Windows must be difficult to compromise.
ye | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
RecruiterGuy | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
realmagick | 09/25/09
|

Ummm, OS X gets plenty of updates too
mechBgon | 09/25/09
|
 
Good Points...
realmagick | 09/25/09
|
  
Luckily for you
honeymonster | 09/27/09
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Honeymonster's facts adulterating propaganda
HerbertH_02 | 09/27/09
|
    
If it ships with their OS then it's a vulnerability in their OS.
ye | 09/27/09
|
     
That's complete and utter rubbish!
HerbertH_02 | 09/28/09
|
     
You can't count can you?
jeremychappell | 09/28/09
|
    
Apple assembles the OSX stack
honeymonster | 09/28/09
|
     
"But what matters is how vulnerable are customers.."
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|
     
Incorrect assumption
rtk | 09/28/09
|
     
Messed up arguments
HerbertH_02 | 09/29/09
|

How does the registry make the system insecure?
Lester Young | 09/25/09
|
 
He doesn't know. Or else he wouldn't have made the statement to begin with.
ye | 09/25/09
|
 
Heh
jeremychappell | 09/28/09
|

Got news for you: OS X is less secure than Windows.
ye | 09/25/09
|
 
If that were true...
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|
  
In a word... market share
mechBgon | 09/28/09
|
  
Care to list just 100 new or modified attacks from this month?
rtk | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
DannyO_0x98 | 09/25/09
|

Follow Up
DannyO_0x98 | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
cnickers | 09/25/09
|

RE: still prefer to use MAC OS over Windows
RedVeg | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
RedVeg | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
kenosha7777 | 09/25/09
|
Now that the Mac is a PC welcome to issues Windows users have
Randalllind | 09/25/09
|

FYI
john_gillespie@... | 09/25/09
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RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
juanm105 | 09/25/09
|
Some Mac user's have false sense of safe
jscott418 | 09/25/09
|

Very good points
winski | 09/25/09
|
 
Very good idea. [nt]
olePigeon | 09/25/09
|

Apostrophes aren't used to pluralize words. [nt]
olePigeon | 09/25/09
|

First you start out with some then you go to many.
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|

Anti-Virus
jeremychappell | 09/28/09
|
Did anyone read the article?
winski | 09/25/09
|

Back of Envelope Time
DannyO_0x98 | 09/25/09
|
 
Naive Mac users doomed by Apple's misleading ads
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
  
Oh please its business and look at politics....
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|
   
And that's why I build my own.
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
    
I've built hundreds of PC's in my day....
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|
     
YOU GO GIRL?
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
     
You are wrong I would have said it to you're face.
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|
     
@djchandler: Ummm... just how out of date are you?
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|
     
@ Vulpine: I didn't pull these dates out of thin air.
djchandler | 09/28/09
|
    
That's also why you don't have as many problems as the average user.
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|

website offline
elllroy | 09/28/09
|
Intuit not a good example of "software"..
randysmith@... | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
proadventurer | 09/25/09
|
Maybe the Chinese have it right
General Ludd | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
rob.sharp@... | 09/25/09
|

totally agree
eldernorm | 09/25/09
|

"This just goes to show that MACs are as vulnerable as PCs."
vulpine@... | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
jpdemers@... | 09/25/09
|

Good news for you! Windows has this exact approach.
ye | 09/25/09
|
 
Nothing to do with the OS...
UsernameRequired | 09/25/09
|
 
He said Windows USERS...not Windows...
storm14k | 09/25/09
|
 
Except that it doesn't ask for a password...
technology@... | 09/25/09
|
This seems to be rather good news for Apple.
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|

Or could it be...
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
 
You should also read some of my other posts here...
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|
  
Jim, Jim, Jim...
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
   
The simple fact is there will always be some people
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|
   
"Once a botnet is established,..."
vulpine@... | 09/28/09
|

Oh sure!
RocketEater | 09/25/09
|
Same story, totally different perception
HerbertH_02 | 09/25/09
|
No system is secure against social engineering
jgpeters | 09/25/09
|

In a "strange" way there is a silver lining here...
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|
 
Or it could show
GuidingLight | 09/28/09
|

Maybe Computer Hygiene Should be a Mandatory Class
technology@... | 09/25/09
|
the Russians! it's cyber-cold-war!
Hobyx | 09/25/09
|
Market Share
dheady@... | 09/25/09
|
It's a numbers game...
koala121121@... | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
rightwingnutter | 09/25/09
|

Good theory...
JCitizen | 09/25/09
|
They must Love Apple's
GuidingLight | 09/25/09
|

Is this a virus?
James Quinn | 09/25/09
|
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
levinson | 09/25/09
|
how utterly repugnant
BlueBerry Pick'n | 09/25/09
|

Aren't you leaping to conclusions?
djchandler | 09/25/09
|
The computer is one of mankinds...
blackjack861@... | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
dkcartw@... | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
ceknight | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
phatkat | 09/25/09
|
PC vs. Mac (The Ultimate Answer)
MrLucasBrice | 09/25/09
|
Changes to my DNS address?
stanleyga2 | 09/25/09
|

It;s simple really
epaval@... | 09/25/09
|
 
@epeval
stanleyga2 | 09/25/09
|
  
It doesn't work that way
epaval@... | 09/25/09
|

here's how DNS works
nfhiggs@... | 09/26/09
|

it's changing the address of the DNS sever your mac will use...
doctorSpoc | 09/26/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
mwoo@... | 09/25/09
|
I'm shocked...
zkiwi | 09/25/09
|
Keep running those "Macs don't get viruses" ads, Stevie.
Lester Young | 09/25/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
klacour@... | 09/25/09
|

Very funny!
JCitizen | 09/25/09
|
 
Seems like small compensation
tracy anne | 09/26/09
|
  
True...(nt)
JCitizen | 09/27/09
|
Heh Heh I Seen This Coming.
Synate.Deszeld | 09/25/09
|

HA HA HA !!! Yup
mrdood_99205@... | 09/26/09
|

agree?
elllroy | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
JonWayn | 09/25/09
|
Macs are certainly not invincible - but so far so good
richardw66 | 09/25/09
|

Hmmm! My brother suddenly lost his...
JCitizen | 09/26/09
|
 
This only goes to prove that even when we Apple users
James Quinn | 09/27/09
|
  
And opinion is all it is. I use both and find neither better or worse...
ye | 09/27/09
|
 
Because...
honeymonster | 09/28/09
|
  
Stupid Reply
jdbukis@... | 09/28/09
|
  
Thats another qoute from the wiki article too.
jdbukis@... | 09/28/09
|
  
I respect your input honeymonster...
JCitizen | 09/30/09
|
Message has been deleted.
Matt Gabriel | 09/26/09
|
It was only a matter of time.....
mrdood_99205@... | 09/26/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
joeblotnik49@... | 09/26/09
|
Message has been deleted.
adrea hufinest | 09/28/09
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REIt is a matter of Paranoia versus Profit!
mark@... | 09/28/09
|

Oddly, even Jobs himself disagrees with you.
rtk | 09/28/09
|
"Sour gra... ... Apples"
mark@... | 09/28/09
|
Things are slow at ZDNet
Fred Fredrickson | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
Dan Robinson | 09/28/09
|
Wow, You Mean There Are Still DimBulbs Out There Who Believe . . .
joeldm | 09/28/09
|

If you were half way right...
Cayble | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
RS_1 | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
Cyberjester | 09/28/09
|

Proof?
Evilyn | 09/28/09
|
 
Be careful what you ask for
mechBgon | 09/28/09
|
Mac owners are jucy targets
wizoddg | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
Gis Bun | 09/28/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
becomann | 09/28/09
|
So tell me
Crestview | 09/28/09
|
I am so happy
Jimster480 | 09/28/09
|

Malware's been on the Mac platform for years.
nix_hed | 09/28/09
|
It was bound to happen sometime
flipicaneze | 09/29/09
|
Only $0.43? They must be expecting a lot of bugs
paul_kern@... | 09/29/09
|
43 cents means.
magallanes | 09/29/09
|
where is loverock?
ismoore | 09/29/09
|
RE: Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents
powershaker | 09/29/09
|