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February 15th, 2008

HD DVD is dead

Posted by Robin Harris @ 8:44 am

Categories: Disk drives, Marketing

Tags: HD-DVD, Blu-ray, Toshiba Corp., Hd Dvd, DVD, Consumer Electronics, Sales Strategy, Personal Technology, Home Entertainment, Sales

Bowing to the inevitable - finally! - Hollywood Reporter says:

The format war has turned into a format death watch.

Toshiba is widely expected to pull the plug on its HD DVD format sometime in the coming weeks, reliable industry sources say, after a rash of retail defections that followed Warner Home Video’s announcement in early January that it would support only the rival Blu-ray Disc format after May.

The marketing VP for HD DVD, Jodi Sally, says no decision has been made officially, but

Given the market developments in the past month, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players.

That’s marketing speak for “we’re done.” Even Microsoft’s HD DVD evangelist isn’t returning phone calls.

Update 2:Feb 19: Toshiba announced today that it is immediately closing out the HD DVD business: ceasing production of the players and recorders and liquidating everything by the end of March. Nice upconverting DVD players AND some great HD movies for very little scratch. End update.

Update: Wal-Mart announced yesterday that it is dropping HD DVD as well. Retailers are concerned that downloading will replace buying. While I’m skeptical that will happen any time soon, some of the reviews of the new Apple TV suggest it could happen, especially as network speeds improve. End update.

Heroic resuscitation efforts
Toshiba cut prices 50% on its players, bought a Superbowl spot, and - nothing happened. The best-selling Blu-ray disk moved 3x the best-selling HD DVD disk. Blu-ray accounts for 81% of HD disk sales - which themselves are a tiny fraction of declining DVD sales - and 2/3rds of HD hardware sales.

Brutal market
Storage is a brutal market. People want standards and they want cheap. You get cheap from volume and you get volume from cheap, which means big upfront investments.

Sony won the volume war by putting Blu-ray in the PS3, the finest Blu-ray player available, at the enormous cost of taking the #3 position in the lucrative gaming market. MBA students will be studying this case for decades and asking “was it worth it?”

The Storage Bits take
Toshiba could have saved $100 million and a lot of embarrassment if they’d quit 8 months ago as I suggested (see Blu-ray vs HD DVD: game over). Now they have no leverage with the Blu-ray group and even the dullest tech consumer knows that HD DVD is dead.

Paradoxically, as a savvy reader commented on Is Blu-ray worth it?, this is a great time to buy an HD DVD player. They reportedly work better than the buggy low-end Sony Blu-ray player I bought, upconvert standard-def DVDs beautifully and they’re cheap. Plus you can expect to see firesale prices on HD DVD content, like the Bourne Ultimatum I’ve been jonesing for.

Movie studios are desperate to kick-start declining home video sales. Expect major Blu-ray promotions before year-end. Hey, maybe they’ll even stop treating customers as downloading criminals!

Nah, even Hollywood has limits.

Comments welcome, of course. All you HD DVD advocates, can you now explain why you were so wrong 8 months ago?

Robin HarrisRobin Harris has been messing with computers for over 30 years and selling and marketing data storage for over 20 in companies large and small. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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Posted by: hasta la Vista, bah-bie Posted on: 02/21/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
It's not dead yet...  Eriamjh | 02/15/08
That is the question, isn't it?  itpro_z | 02/15/08
I'm with you on this one...  pooby4444 | 02/18/08
One to two years for a player?  Leria | 02/18/08
I see Betamax visions  dks_z | 02/18/08
I Got A Beta Machine  windozefreak | 02/18/08
"The best thing...  itpro_z | 02/18/08
ps3's etc.  dhays | 02/19/08
Why?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/08
Well it will be soon...  jheine | 02/16/08
You could do what I did...  meryllogue@... | 02/18/08
Matters not...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/15/08
Actually it is ....  wackoae | 02/15/08
Actually  laura.b | 02/18/08
"HD is not worth the money."  e2001@... | 02/19/08
Worth the money  laura.b | 02/19/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  titianbig8@... | 02/15/08
Except for the fact that...  SpikeyMike | 02/18/08
no more than anyone wants a ps3 either lulz  pcguy777 | 02/18/08
so...what you're trying to say is...  kyleferreira111@... | 02/18/08
Marketing Mistake  Rodney Davis | 02/15/08
thats the point of it all  pcguy777 | 02/18/08
Yes  donthetech | 02/21/08
HD-DVD supporters were wrong  coffeeshark | 02/15/08
BluRay won because of copy protection...  BitTwiddler | 02/15/08
Region Coding should be illegal  Dr_Zinj | 02/18/08
you weren't paying attention in economics class were you?  jebakk | 02/18/08
Which is why RC should be illegal  paulw2 | 02/18/08
And sadly you don't really know what you're talking about do you?  Greguska | 02/18/08
RC is just a money making excuse  laman | 02/18/08
Well by that logic...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/08
Region Coding  dks_z | 02/18/08
Region can be changed  markdean | 02/18/08
And these solutions solve the BluRay on PS3 problem how exactly?  Greguska | 02/18/08
I don't know, the article was about HD DVD  markdean | 02/18/08
this is why consumers said no  pcguy777 | 02/18/08
It matters little what DRM is used  markdean | 02/18/08
The reason HD no matter if it's blu-ray or HD-DVD  ju1ce | 02/15/08
Knocked that sucker clean out of the ball park, Juice  Ole Man | 02/15/08
Agree 100%  wackoae | 02/15/08
Pricing  dks_z | 02/18/08
I think your wrong  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/08
Or even weirder they will all be replaced by ..  JCitizen | 02/20/08
Anything's possible...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/21/08
Ah... Optics  dascha1 | 02/15/08
Everybody won but the consumer sad  BitTwiddler | 02/15/08
you said it  nothingness | 02/15/08
Seconded.  SniperCT | 02/15/08
Blu-Ray Is The VHS Of The Formats  itanalyst | 02/15/08
Uh, no, they were the same quality  V-Train | 02/15/08
Image quality is about the same ...  wackoae | 02/15/08
Afraid you are wrong  nucrash | 02/16/08
You need to take a look at this...  kengland2 | 02/18/08
Could still "win" if they changed game  riredale | 02/15/08
Win what?  Tigertank | 02/15/08
Not really ...  wackoae | 02/15/08
HD-DVD  corrnd@... | 02/18/08
$37.90 for 3 crappy old movies is not "savvy".  wackoae | 02/18/08
Dern right you can  laura.b | 02/19/08
that is the correct strategy... you right  pcguy777 | 02/18/08
Linux Geeks HD DVD Advocates?  CassidyJames | 02/18/08
We don't need another optical devices!  joemartn | 02/15/08
Re: We don't need another optical devices!  mKind | 02/15/08
So the future is to go back to the past???  wackoae | 02/15/08
because you sure dont...  ivanotter | 02/18/08
your wrong.. flat out wrong  pcguy777 | 02/18/08
No, you're wrong, my friend  laura.b | 02/19/08
No lady, you're also partially wrong  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/08
No, I'm not  laura.b | 02/20/08
In a few years  TripleII | 02/15/08
Depends. $120 is a great upconverting DVD player  georgeou | 02/15/08
An Ou post I can completely agree with!  V-Train | 02/15/08
Agree 100%  wackoae | 02/15/08
Upconversion  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 02/18/08
price isn't really an issue  isotla | 02/18/08
"Upconversion"?  tentaro@... | 02/18/08
You misunderstand  SteveMak | 02/18/08
You don't get out much...  SpikeyMike | 02/18/08
Wal-Mart annouces it's abandoning HD-DVD  bc501 | 02/15/08
HD DVD dead?  combrink | 02/15/08
It's dead.  CobraA1 | 02/16/08
Based on what?  MariusSilverwolf | 02/15/08
HD-DVD is better because ...  wackoae | 02/15/08
If by incomplete...  MariusSilverwolf | 02/16/08
The problem is not only the interactive  wackoae | 02/16/08
To think I called that one wrong.  nucrash | 02/16/08
Yeah  SniperCT | 02/16/08
BluRay and HD are both dead to me.  kraterz | 02/17/08
Blu-Ray will upconvert  mmuerte | 02/18/08
Awww man! I just bought Toshiba's recorder for $150 and a movie!! Am I  HypnoToad72 | 02/18/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  I_Byte | 02/18/08
You should have just written "Na-na-na-na-na-na"  toontimer@... | 02/18/08
Completely agreed  BanzaiBill | 02/18/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  jedi105@... | 02/18/08
Maybe normal people can buy a player now  Randalllind | 02/18/08
How HD-DVD might still be salvagable  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 02/18/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  dcsummers | 02/18/08
Are you guys serious?  HighQualitySound | 02/18/08
I disagree with one point  laura.b | 02/18/08
Clarification  HighQualitySound | 02/18/08
Re: Clarification  laura.b | 02/19/08
What is funny in MY instance is . . .  JLHenry | 02/20/08
LOL I love it  laura.b | 02/20/08
My house . . .  JLHenry | 02/20/08
PS3  donthetech | 02/21/08
Yes, I am serious...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  shanedr | 02/18/08
Who'd a thunk it  marvcom@... | 02/18/08
Loser Format?  dks_z | 02/18/08
Please Read Again...  marvcom@... | 02/19/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  teseymour@... | 02/18/08
I like physical media for different reasons  laura.b | 02/18/08
It Figures...  QueenMama | 02/18/08
It's really too bad that HD DVD is ending  Teri1957 | 02/18/08
There's only one video format  BALTHOR | 02/18/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  quarky42 | 02/18/08
This is ridiculous.  teadogg4@... | 02/18/08
RE: Case Closed  laura.b | 02/18/08
Correction  laura.b | 02/18/08
What an idiot  teadogg4@... | 02/19/08
Jeez, dude...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/08
Looking in a mirror, I take it?  laura.b | 02/20/08
Dude . . .  JLHenry | 02/18/08
Online features are vital?!  teadogg4@... | 02/19/08
Apparently you're responding randomly to random posts . . ..  JLHenry | 02/20/08
features  donthetech | 02/21/08
Message has been deleted.  Greguska | 02/18/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  creep144 | 02/18/08
Price will be the deciding factor.  dave@... | 02/18/08
HD is now the LINUX of the Move world!!!!  pcguy777 | 02/18/08
HD-DVD compares to Linux like night compares to a banana  critic-at-arms | 02/18/08
HD-DVD is Linux  wackoae | 02/18/08
Both formats are DEAD  blazekc@... | 02/18/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  wscott21 | 02/18/08
Linux Geeks HD DVD Advocates?  CassidyJames | 02/18/08
Meant to reply to Message, not Story. (nt)  CassidyJames | 02/18/08
Maybe HD DVD is dead but there will be others...  chas_2 | 02/18/08
Online distribution is the future  teadogg4@... | 02/19/08
TROLL ALERT!!!!! (nt)  JLHenry | 02/20/08
If HD-DVD is Dead  jfreedle2@... | 02/19/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  wilmepe@... | 02/19/08
No winners at all  green alien | 02/19/08
RE: HD DVD is dead  mjhieu@... | 02/19/08
Blue Ray Blows and so does Sony  volatileseeker@... | 02/19/08
flexibility  donthetech | 02/21/08
I know what upconversion means  donthetech | 02/21/08

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