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February 19th, 2008

HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?

Posted by Robin Harris @ 1:04 pm

Categories: Disk drives, Marketing

Tags: HD-DVD, Blu-ray, Toshiba Corp., Mempile, Hd Dvd, DVD, Consumer Electronics, Personal Technology, Home Entertainment, Robin Harris

On the face of it Toshiba’s HD DVD format had a lot going for it. What went wrong?

They had parity - or better - with Blu-ray:

  • First to market with a high-def player by 3-6 months
  • A great movie experience with plenty of capacity for extras
  • Lower costs for disk production - the format used much existing technology unlike Blu-ray - and players since they didn’t need the fancy blue laser diodes
  • Almost as many movie titles as Blu-ray - despite not owning a movie studio like Sony

Here’s what killed them
Toshiba made several strategic mistakes:

  • Too timid: With their earlier shipment and lower-cost products, Toshiba could have trounced Blu-ray by very aggressive pricing. By setting the price bar low enough they would have encouraged the early adopters and started building volume for retailers.
  • Studio support: Hollywood is all about the benjamins - they didn’t care which format won as long as they were selling more product. By pushing the player cost curve faster, Toshiba would have moved more HD DVD product for the studios and put Sony on the defensive. Instead, Toshiba waited until the damage was already done to pay the studios for exclusives. Too little, too late.
  • Relying on Microsoft: Toshiba thought the Xbox was the right answer to the PS3/Blu-ray combo. In studio pitches it probably sounded reasonable. But Microsoft’s support for HD DVD was tepid - like their support for anything non-Microsoft - and the optional Xbox HD DVD player never generated the volumes Toshiba hoped for.

The bottom line: over 6 million Blu-ray players have been sold and only 1 million HD DVD players. That’s what drove the studios to support Blu-ray.

The download threat
The wildcard was the retailers. It was no accident that Blockbuster, the video rental chain, was the first to announce exclusive Blu-ray support last June (see Blu-ray vs HD DVD: game over). They face a slow death if people stop driving to stores to rent movies. If you can download movies without going to stores, sayonara Blockbuster.

Best Buy, Target and Wal-Mart were slower to see the downloading threat. The second version of Apple TV - lower priced and near HD quality - finally roused them.

The big question now: given a choice between a new player or an Apple TV-like appliance for downloads, which will America choose?

To Sony’s credit
Sony’s key strategic move was to bundle Blu-ray into the PS3. That cost them hundreds of millions of dollars as the price of the PS3 didn’t recover costs. It also delayed their entry into the market, giving the loss-making Xbox a valuable head start.

But it’s the single most important thing that tipped the balance in Blu-ray’s favor.

Going forward
The value of Sony’s victory remains to be seen. It isn’t clear that Blu-ray is a big win (see Is Blu-ray worth it?) for most consumers. Very few people are going to upgrade their DVD collections to Blu-ray as many people did with VHS to DVD or LP to CD - Hollywood’s great hope to reverse declining DVD sales.

Other technologies are quickly eroding Blu-ray’s capacity advantage. Mempile’s 1 TB optical disk is well on its way. Only by persuading consumers to watch even higher defininition video will retailers be able to fend off downloaded rentals.

The Storage Bits take
This battle, like the Betamax-VHS battle in the early ’80s, will be dissected by MBAs and strategists for decades. Only in time will the real winners emerge - and who’s to say that Toshiba won’t ultimately be the biggest winner.

Comments welcome, of course.

Robin HarrisRobin Harris has been messing with computers for over 30 years and selling and marketing data storage for over 20 in companies large and small. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?
> "Too timid: Toshiba could have trounced Blu-ray by very aggressive pricing"

TIMID?

They were too GREEDY.

And because of that, they deserve JUST what they got.

-- faye k... (Read the rest)
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HD_DVD could have still won  voska1 | 02/19/08
More like 8-10 years  Michael Kelly | 02/19/08
Pricing is coming down  voska1 | 02/19/08
Blu-ray supports 3D  glocks out | 02/19/08
3D What???  phillip.ruffin | 02/20/08
Supports 3D what????  IT_Guy_z | 02/20/08
I don't think he means 3-D movies  vbp1 | 02/20/08
Holographic Versatile Card (HVC)  Joel R | 02/20/08
Not especially  online@... | 02/20/08
Toshiba already dropped their prices too low  glocks out | 02/19/08
My analysis  darkhamr@... | 02/20/08
No, b/c apparently a third of PS3 owners don't even know it'll Play BluRay  drprod@... | 02/22/08
RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?  johnay | 02/19/08
Good analysis  MC_z | 02/19/08
Keep in mind...  itpro_z | 02/19/08
About perceiving quality  MC_z | 02/19/08
True, but  A.Sinic | 02/20/08
1080i is the standard broadcast  glocks out | 02/19/08
Europe is heading for 1080p/50  A.Sinic | 02/19/08
1080i is not necessarily better  itpro_z | 02/19/08
Point of order!  mombo3 | 02/20/08
oops, I meant 1080, not 180  mombo3 | 02/20/08
I agree  itpro_z | 02/20/08
incorrect....  phillip.ruffin | 02/20/08
Yes, but...  itpro_z | 02/20/08
1080i is the broadcast standard? Not.  laner1@... | 02/20/08
OTOH, these are the same people who watch cameraphone videos on YouTube  drprod@... | 02/22/08
The future  itpro_z | 02/19/08
Partly right  MC_z | 02/19/08
Partly agree  itpro_z | 02/19/08
I have both  Monkey_MCSE | 02/19/08
?  FredOneSaid | 02/23/08
$90 for a VHS tape?  voska1 | 02/19/08
If you will recall...  itpro_z | 02/19/08
$90 VHS Movies  chapy2 | 02/20/08
You Might Also Try Over-the-Air HD  drprod@... | 02/22/08
It's all content  coffeeshark | 02/19/08
Advantages?  glocks out | 02/19/08
Huh?  A.Sinic | 02/19/08
1.0, 1.1, 2.0, etc. players...  olePigeon | 02/19/08
On top of that . . .  JLHenry | 02/20/08
CAN YOU SAY, "DRM"?  sean_in_portland@... | 02/19/08
The quality improvement doesn't match with the added price.  Just_true | 02/19/08
LOL, Dude Losen the Foil Hat, let the blood flow to your Brain! NT  JustAnAboveAverageJoe | 02/20/08
It's better to lose hat, than the brains like you. Try to prove I'm wrong.  Just_true | 02/20/08
Great . . .the Tin Foil crowd has arrived . . .(nt)  JLHenry | 02/20/08
When did you get brain surgery? Otherwise you'd write for a reason. (NT)  Just_true | 02/20/08
Troll Alert!!! (nt)  JLHenry | 02/20/08
JLHenry, denying the reality doesn't make you a sane. (NT)  Just_true | 02/21/08
Wow...How Dramatic.  GuyAlanDye | 02/20/08
DVD really don't have DRM  voska1 | 02/20/08
The STUDIOS think they've got DRM, Voska  drprod@... | 02/22/08
RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?  jrich@... | 02/19/08
I agree  R HarrisZDNet Moderator | 02/19/08
Please elaborate  bmgoodman | 02/20/08
HD/BR both stop-gap solutions.  kraterz | 02/19/08
Where's the bandwidth?  CodeCurmudgeon | 02/20/08
Somebody had to win  CobraA1 | 02/19/08
. . .  JLHenry | 02/20/08
Content really wasn't an issue  voska1 | 02/20/08
I think that . . .  JLHenry | 02/20/08
I agree  FredOneSaid | 02/23/08
Committment  A.Sinic | 02/20/08
What I'd like to see is . . .  JLHenry | 02/20/08
BR -v- HDDVD, nobody really won here.  JonathonDoe | 02/20/08
A couple things . . .  CobraA1 | 02/20/08
You forgot..  ju1ce | 02/20/08
I notice the difference of 720p on a 32" HD set  drprod@... | 02/22/08
No one has won yet  jedwards123 | 02/20/08
Better to ask the value of what Sony has won.  Anton Philidor | 02/20/08
Not so much win as avoided loss  MyLord | 02/20/08
dead yes and no  Quebec-french | 02/20/08
dead yes and no  Quebec-french | 02/20/08
Toshiba Should Buy/Promote Mempile  John Westra | 02/20/08
And All the Big Corporate Lawsuits Toshiba Could EVER Want, Too!  drprod@... | 02/22/08
RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?  bobdahm@... | 02/20/08
RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?  jonnjonnzdnet | 02/20/08
Allways LOL, Robin  GuidingLight | 02/20/08
Why did Toshiba fail? Stupid consumers...  Narg | 02/20/08
$90 VHS Movies?  chapy2 | 02/20/08
RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?  ju1ce | 02/20/08
it's a lot more than $2  Linux Geek | 02/20/08
Holographic Versatile Card (HVC)  paulw2 | 02/20/08
Of course there's a blue laser in there  pglaskowsky | 02/20/08
Don't forget advertising  kftgr | 02/20/08
RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?  neil.postlethwaite@... | 02/21/08
RE: HD DVD post-mortem: why did Toshiba fail?  FayeKane | 08/10/08

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