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January 14th, 2009

Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?

Posted by Robin Harris @ 8:41 am

Categories: Infrastructure

Tags: Battery, Apple Inc., Cycle Life, Engineering, Robin Harris

The new 17″ MacBook Pro has a non-removable, 8 hour battery that Apple claims can recharge 3x more times than standard batteries and has a 5 year life. Are they nuts?

The “removable” battery mistake
Removable batteries are a kludge, not a feature. The only reason you want a removable battery is that a single battery’s life is too short.

Apple says that they were able to expand battery size by 40% by making it non-removable. Battery size translates directly into battery life.

Update from ZDnet’s own Jason D. O’Grady:

  • There are three tri-wing screws holding the battery to the Unibody case. Apple did this to intimidate people out of swapping the battery, but a small flathead screwdriver works fine to remove the screws.
  • You can replace the battery by removing 13 screws and a replaceable sticker.
  • The battery is HUGE. It weighs 20.1 ounces (1.25 pounds). That’s 20% of the computer’s weight!

End update.

As Apple’s excellent battery video (click on “Watch the battery video”) points out, removable batteries require a lot of space for connectors, latches and support. Lose the support bits - build a bigger battery.

So?
An 8 hour battery life totally changes the user experience: instead of counting minutes and looking for outlets, your notebook is always ready when you are. A few hours doesn’t seem like much, but in practice the difference is huge.

How do I know? For 5 years I carried a notebook with a 9 hour battery life and a reliable sleep mode. I’d walk into a meeting, open the book, and be right where I’d been hours before - and I never had to jockey for power.

No notebook since - with 3-5 hour battery lives - has given me the same sense of freedom. The reliable Mac OS X sleep mode and an 8 hour battery life will be all most professionals need to get them through the day without rebooting or plugging in.

The 5 year/1,000 recharge battery life?
Apple further claims that the battery can be recharged 1,000 times, while maintaining 80% - 6.5 hours - of battery charge. Part of the magic is “advanced chemistry” in the lithium batteries.

The other piece is “adaptive recharging” which “. . . reduces the wear and tear on the battery . . . .” Really?

Really! According to a 2000 patent (6,204,634) issued to The Aerospace Corporation, a manufacturer of low-earth orbit satellites federally funded research and development corporation in support of DOD and intelligence community national security space programs:

Existing charge control systems . . . typically utilize voltage-limited constant current charging of individual cells to maintain an adequate battery charge while also limiting cell degradation rates. . . . Ultimate cycle life has a strong inverse correlation with the cumulative amount of overcharge put into the cells by the charge control system. The optimum cycle life is achieved when unnecessary overcharge is exactly zero.

In addition, degradation rates can change significantly as the electrodes transition among several charge states. Also, the recharge voltage limit shifts as the cell temperature changes and as the cells degrade over life.

Translation: yes Virginia, l-ion battery charging can be optimized if you spend money for the sensors, algorithms and local intelligence to do it.

You won’t see that on your $500 Wintel notebook any time soon.

The Storage Bits take
Good products serve; great products surprise. For a generation that has never known more than 4 hours battery life, the new 17″ MacBook Pro will be a revelation.

Assuming, of course, that it lives up to its billing.

Comments welcome, of course.

Robin HarrisRobin Harris has been messing with computers for over 30 years and selling and marketing data storage for over 20 in companies large and small. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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i think i'm going to get one of these  lostarchitect | 01/14/09
RE: Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  redtrain65 | 01/14/09
First, you should try to find out information...  msalzberg | 01/14/09
RE: Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  dave@... | 01/14/09
Actually....  snberk341 | 01/14/09
Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  mypl8s4u2 | 01/19/09
Umm..SATA is a connection type HDD and SSD use it. (NT)  logicearth@... | 01/22/09
You won???t see that on your $500 Wintel notebook any time soon.  cornpie | 01/14/09
good points  bishofthedump | 01/15/09
Will you see it on your $500 MacBook any time soon?  NonZealot | 01/14/09
+ you can easily buy 8hrs worth of spare replaceble battery for $500... nt  T1Oracle | 01/14/09
Which will destroy or hamper the whole concept  James Quinn | 01/14/09
You're absolutely right. I finaly get it now.  T1Oracle | 01/15/09
LOL  MGP2 | 01/24/09
Nonsense...  GOTBO | 01/16/09
Will you see it on any PC laptop at price point? [nt]  olePigeon | 01/15/09
A better comparison...  rdawson@... | 01/15/09
Misleading and frivoulous  CrashPad | 01/21/09
No it's not  macadam | 01/23/09
RE: Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  notlehs | 01/14/09
Wireless recharging batteries  Tigertank | 01/14/09
Batteries usually don't die overnight...  msalzberg | 01/14/09
huh?  Boxarox | 01/14/09
First of all..  msalzberg | 01/14/09
that's a lot of mics.  bishofthedump | 01/15/09
I mix a...  msalzberg | 01/15/09
Don't confuse computers with Digital mixers  techr@... | 01/19/09
My 38 RF mics...  msalzberg | 01/19/09
Thanks  techr@... | 01/26/09
Nerd alert.  ddunn68@... | 01/16/09
Sometimes, they just die......  notlehs | 01/15/09
Well...  frabjous | 01/16/09
Chraging vs using  techr@... | 01/19/09
Doesn't anyone read anymore?  snberk341 | 01/14/09
"Honestly, I think the wireless charging system idea is much better. "  JoshNorton | 01/15/09
umm....  snberk341 | 01/15/09
From long time experience  macadam | 01/23/09
Dell advertises 19 hours  bmeacham98@... | 01/14/09
Yeah, right  Len Rooney | 01/14/09
Show me the MacBook that gets 19 hours battery life!  NonZealot | 01/14/09
show me ANY laptop that ACTUALLY gets that much life!  lostarchitect | 01/14/09
Does anyone have any evidence either way??  DevJonny | 01/15/09
Laptop != Netbook. Try again. [nt]  olePigeon | 01/15/09
Of course - this isn't a netbook  p0figster | 01/15/09
Yes and no...  olePigeon | 01/15/09
You need to read further....  msalzberg | 01/16/09
I can't show you a Macbook that does, but  A Grain of Salt | 01/15/09
Following your link...  msalzberg | 01/14/09
Not quite  brendthess | 01/14/09
When I checked the link earlier...  msalzberg | 01/14/09
Has anyone check...  magpie_z | 01/19/09
Because the Dell requires extra batteries...  MyMac | 01/14/09
With what? 7+ lbs of extra batteries?  Bruizer | 01/14/09
I'm a PC and I agree with the Apple  techr@... | 01/19/09
RE: Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  andrewjg | 01/14/09
You do realize ...  msalzberg | 01/14/09
heh  CobraA1 | 01/14/09
If you can afford the price tag, battery won't matter.  TripleII | 01/14/09
You misunderstand why they complain  ChrisOPeterson | 01/14/09
How long is the battery warranty?  TripleII | 01/14/09
1 Year according the link...  DevJonny | 01/15/09
Wake up and look at the Apple Store  bitshiftr | 01/14/09
Labour included...  snberk341 | 01/15/09
Can Apple users claim Jobs as a dependant  John2219 | 01/14/09
IMHO  CobraA1 | 01/14/09
I already get 7.5 hours on my Eee PC 1000H. nt  T1Oracle | 01/14/09
not exactly a 17-incher, though. n/m  lostarchitect | 01/14/09
Netbook != Laptop. [nt]  olePigeon | 01/15/09
n/m  lostarchitect | 01/14/09
great free advertising for Apple products  markbn | 01/14/09
Ed Bott and Mary-Jo Foley are walking MS ads.  Bruizer | 01/14/09
Huh?  markbn | 01/15/09
Batteries are a form of storage.  Robin HarrisZDNet Moderator | 01/18/09
OK genius  markbn | 01/23/09
Mary-Jo, yes, but not Ed Bott. [nt]  olePigeon | 01/15/09
There is a psychological component to having removable batteries  Roque Mocan | 01/14/09
There is a time to change and grow.....  James Quinn | 01/14/09
Better analogy is the car....  snberk341 | 01/15/09
RE: Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  kitko | 01/14/09
Apple Joke  croberts | 01/14/09
Depends on what you mean?  James Quinn | 01/14/09
I don't know about all those...  lostarchitect | 01/15/09
Your problem is consistency  georgeou | 01/15/09
Your problem is consistency.  msalzberg | 01/15/09
For your information, smaller laptops cost more for mobility  georgeou | 01/15/09
George, you still insist on changing subjects..  msalzberg | 01/15/09
Nope, $1300 fully loaded with everything I need  georgeou | 01/15/09
I've never heard anyone equate...  msalzberg | 01/15/09
I consistently make up my own mind.  Robin HarrisZDNet Moderator | 01/18/09
Having a battery built in is not good for tech support  Randalllind | 01/15/09
Battery replacement  bryant@... | 01/15/09
Same thing that happens with any system....  snberk341 | 01/15/09
Sales hype...  Narg | 01/15/09
Check out the battery video...  msalzberg | 01/15/09
Posted wrong Place. Meant to reply to NZ  A Grain of Salt | 01/15/09
RE: Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  SteveHGoldberg | 01/19/09
This might seem trivial to some but..  Ethical_Loner | 01/19/09
I have doubts.  techr@... | 01/19/09
If you had taken the time..  msalzberg | 01/19/09
RE: Apple's 8 hour battery: breakthrough or bungle?  alec.wood@... | 01/20/09
Less wasted batterys in landfills, ha joke!  Louiscw | 01/21/09
Why do we need REMOVABLE batteries?  Mr_Dave | 01/21/09

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