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March 31st, 2009

Apple's $500 or Microsoft's 81% tax?

Posted by Robin Harris @ 10:26 am

Categories: Marketing

Tags: Steve Ballmer, Apple Inc., Microsoft Corp., Taxes, Free Trade, Personal Finance, Viruses And Worms, Security, Financial Planning, Finance

Which do you prefer?
Even if it were true, Ballmer’s “$500 Apple tax” comment is stupid: Microsoft’s profits are way beyond Apple’s. And, get this: that $500 - if it was real - is a great investment. Here’s why.

Margin, margin, who’s got the margin?
Gross margin is simply the difference between what something sells for and what it costs to make.

Microsoft’s GM for the last 5 years: 81.69%
Apple’s GM: 31.83%

But Microsoft is a much large company than Apple. To put this in perspective in the last 5 years Microsoft had revenues of $232 BILLION.

Apple’s revenues were $98 billion.

Microsoft’s GM “tax” on customers: $190 billion.
Apple’s comparable number: $31 billion.

That’s right: Microsoft has pulled 6x the gross margin dollars out of customer pockets in the last 5 years than Apple.

Of course, Ballmer invested your dollars in very important products: Zune - crushed by Apple; Live Search - crushed by Google; Xbox - crushed by Nintendo Wii; and, best of all, Vista - crushed by Windows XP!

Not to mention $10 million to Seinfeld for those head-scratching ads. Really, if any other CEO had such a lousy track record he’d be toast. Don’t you wish YOU’D been Bill’s roommate at Harvard?

What about that $500?
Just the cost of anti-virus protection for Windows justifies the mythical $500. For example, Kaspersky anti-virus protection costs $40 a year.

If you invested $500 and that earned $40 a year, that’s a return of 8% per year. Excellent compared to bank CD rates - or a 5 year investment in Microsoft stock.

Which ignores another important fact: Mac’s retain their value a lot better than Wintel stuff. My 3+ year old MacBook is worth about 50% of its purchase price. A 3 year old Dell is more like 20%.

On a $1200 Mac vs a $600 Dell that’s almost $500 right there. Ouch.

The Storage Bits take
For all his flaws, no high-tech CEO matches Steve Ballmer for pure entertainment value. Who else would urge consumers to settle for their product because they can’t afford the best?

Steve Jobs’ Reality Distortion Field can mesmerize millions. Ballmer’s reality distortion field, alas, extends only to his ears.

Comments welcome, of course. A good friend had to buy a new Wintel because it was so compromised with malware that the local tech couldn’t fix it. AND she’d been paying for anti-virus “protection.”

Robin HarrisRobin Harris has been messing with computers for over 30 years and selling and marketing data storage for over 20 in companies large and small. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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You need to get over your MS hate
If you, your friend and the local tech were so incompetant that they couldnt clean of the infection then that says more about you and the tech than anything else.
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time is money  ericesque | 03/31/09
How is Linux expensive in terms of time?  Henrik Moller | 04/01/09
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RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  kitko | 03/31/09
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He wanted the form factor  frgough | 03/31/09
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Apple does not make a 12" laptop at all  Michael Fournier | 04/03/09
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Following that logic  frgough | 03/31/09
The desire  Mectron | 03/31/09
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someone is coming across as...  ericesque | 03/31/09
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think harder, different isn't getting you there...  ericesque | 04/01/09
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A Mac is not hardware........  James Quinn | 04/03/09
LOTS of people won't support a lying, cheating, stealing sect like MS! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
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Apple customer or not  Michael Fournier | 04/03/09
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RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  dheady@... | 03/31/09
Sorry, but that's not accurate  Joe_Raby | 03/31/09
Unreal  frgough | 03/31/09
Server processors  Asiafish | 04/01/09
Beware the Wrath of the Softies, Robin  Userama | 03/31/09
Apple is also a Hardware company...  Roque Mocan | 03/31/09
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Just Like BMW/Ford/Volvo,  T25 | 03/31/09
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I'm an apple fan, but have to say...  paul@... | 03/31/09
And yet the amounts...  msalzberg | 04/01/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  Berlzy | 03/31/09
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I'm no apple fan either  deaf_e_kate | 04/01/09
That's Enough.  randomnoise | 04/01/09
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Are you a loony?  Cayble | 04/02/09
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Put it up for sale  frgough | 03/31/09
netbooks?  Asiafish | 04/01/09
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RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  jrfields321 | 03/31/09
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WOW  Steven_Case | 04/03/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  rick.sheeley | 03/31/09
Carefull! Logical thinking like that will get attacks from MS Shills! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
Wow, what a childish and illogical blog post!  Martin_Australia | 03/31/09
Why?  nizuse | 03/31/09
What an Understatement!  David Blomstrom | 03/31/09
Gates Exploits childred around the world?  Boxarox | 03/31/09
LOL!  David Blomstrom | 03/31/09
Please tell me you wrote this on purpose?  NonZealot | 03/31/09
Uh, dude...  David Blomstrom | 03/31/09
Okay, just please don't beat me up.  NonZealot | 03/31/09
Bill Gates = Corporate Pimp  David Blomstrom | 03/31/09
Never been impressed by conspiracy theories  NonZealot | 03/31/09
NonZ - use your money where your ethics are. I think I know how you think!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
Ethically speaking, Linux = community. nt  T1Oracle | 04/04/09
I just love this typo...  Cayble | 04/04/09
You bet David! That's why Apple gets my money and Microsoft is left out!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
Which do you prefer?  markbn | 03/31/09
This just prove  Mectron | 03/31/09
It only goes to prove the lengths some will go too  James Quinn | 04/02/09
Rich idiots, thank you very much! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
This guy is such  Mectron | 03/31/09
This coming from you of all people!?! FUNNY:)  James Quinn | 04/02/09
I'm embarrassed for Robin Harris. Is he 7 years old?  n00bnation | 03/31/09
Well, YOUR time (n00bnation) converted to USD equals .000001 cents. (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
Comparing software margin with software + hardware margin  Thunder_ | 03/31/09
Friends don't let friends pay for AV software  ericesque | 03/31/09
I use Avira AntiVir personal free  Randalllind | 04/02/09
Good thing he's marketer/salesperson and not an investment advisor.  woogemooge@... | 03/31/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  woogemooge@... | 03/31/09
Good Article Robin  Alan Smithie | 04/01/09
"convicted monopolist"  Erroneous | 04/01/09
Actus Reus And Mens Rea  Alan Smithie | 04/03/09
Resale value and other fluff  Theli | 04/01/09
Something wrong with your article.  ddrewitz | 04/01/09
Not Very Fair  Davis Freeberg | 04/01/09
He can't do your comparison  j.m.galvin | 04/01/09
Gross Margin as a tax on the consumer????  cmsmith1@... | 04/01/09
Re: Gross Margin as a tax on the consumer????  kpod | 04/01/09
@cmsmith1  Axsimulate | 04/01/09
@Axsimulate  woogemooge@... | 04/01/09
Microsoft has pulled 6x the gross margin dollars  3D0G | 04/01/09
The author  sackbut | 04/01/09
Vista was not crushed by XP  arcebus@... | 04/01/09
Been doing that since Vista came out.  Erroneous | 04/01/09
His point, or at least mine, is that there is NO point to using Vista.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  arcebus@... | 04/01/09
So should Microsoft reduce its pricing...  sullivanjc | 04/01/09
On a $1200 Mac vs a $600 Dell  sullivanjc | 04/01/09
Math lesson  frd050101@... | 04/01/09
Maybe you need the math lesson..  sullivanjc | 04/01/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  dawgzang@... | 04/01/09
If Macs were at the same price points as  Sodbuster41 | 04/01/09
And if Toyotas were...  jmgdalton | 04/01/09
How much does Apple pay you to write this?  emaster70@... | 04/01/09
"if you don't like the (Microsoft) prices don't buy it"  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
Right on Money Robin  nixstor | 04/01/09
@Axsimulate  woogemooge@... | 04/01/09
It All Boils Down To...  WarhavenSC | 04/01/09
Hence why Microsoft Shills think Apple folks are elitists!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  david@... | 04/01/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  dpatjhh | 04/01/09
Apples and oranges  niallfromdublin@... | 04/01/09
Exactly  ibarskiy@... | 04/02/09
A day early to April Fools eh?  T1Oracle | 04/01/09
The never ending discussion...  ivan.neva@... | 04/01/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  timberfish | 04/01/09
Bait & switch?  Ken_z | 04/01/09
Apple is the master of this bait and switch  NonZealot | 04/01/09
Hey, pathetic buffoon  markbn | 04/01/09
Yeah and name calling only serves to make your point:P  James Quinn | 04/02/09
Look who is here? Defender of the Apple's faith  markbn | 04/02/09
Well I am rather dashing and hero like so thanks for  James Quinn | 04/03/09
As Tina Turner sung: "We Don't Need Another Hero"!  markbn | 04/09/09
double check your facts  gesi28@... | 04/01/09
Gross Margin is Value Creation  johngalt_0705 | 04/01/09
Who taught you economics anyway?!  ibarskiy@... | 04/02/09
Menger, von Mises, Hayek  johngalt_0705 | 04/02/09
HHHHHa  Michael Fournier | 04/03/09
I'm confused. Are you writing about how Microsoft 'confused' the developer?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
Economics and Ethics  johngalt_0705 | 04/03/09
And once again, what nonsense...  ibarskiy@... | 04/06/09
Do you know what "free market" means?  johngalt_0705 | 04/06/09
You sound like you are smoking something...  ibarskiy@... | 04/07/09
often wrong, but never in doubt  johngalt_0705 | 04/07/09
Sounds like you are talking about yourself  ibarskiy@... | 04/08/09
Microsoft knows that people are aware. This is why they are so scared! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  creep144 | 04/01/09
Sounds like you should have bought an extended contract.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
free antivirus software for windows  willpeavy.net | 04/02/09
free antivirus software for Mac  ashdude | 04/02/09
Difference is we don't NEED to use it (thank goodness!). (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
The real question is how many have been quarantined?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
Horrible analysis  ibarskiy@... | 04/02/09
Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  ewelch | 04/02/09
How much is too much?  mjolnar@... | 04/02/09
Why such a Red Herring article?????  Cayble | 04/02/09
To generate hits  johngalt_0705 | 04/03/09
True enough.  Cayble | 04/04/09
It is not about Mac vs PC  Michael Fournier | 04/03/09
Opps  Michael Fournier | 04/03/09
Thank you  ~Obelix~ | 04/03/09
I can appreciate that Michael, but Microsoft is EVIL. End of story. (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/03/09
You should look  Cayble | 04/04/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  justanitguy | 04/03/09
lower price is selling point for A LOT of companies  dmean | 04/03/09
Sort of..  ~Obelix~ | 04/03/09
Where did Robin learn his math?  The_Curmudgeon | 04/03/09
Margin comparison is nonsense  rock06r | 04/05/09
Cayble, you moron  prof123 | 04/06/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax? wtf?  bbonis@... | 04/07/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  bbonis@... | 04/07/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  techdeuce.com | 04/08/09
Anyone know accounting here?  sscywong@... | 04/08/09
Epic fail.  Nihilkrist | 04/09/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  mitchhcs | 04/10/09
"Kiddie" hackers?  Nihilkrist | 04/10/09
Using Win7 for 3 years, eh?  JJQ1000 | 04/17/09
Every thought that...  wolf_z | 05/06/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  Daedalu | 05/07/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  Nikolayev | 05/07/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  hadley@... | 05/07/09
Spot on.  satelshawn | 05/08/09
Maybe it's just anti-MS  MacKeyser | 05/09/09
RE: Apple's $500 or Microsofts's 81% tax?  45north | 05/09/09
You need to get over your MS hate  jdbukis@... | 08/10/09

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