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February 13th, 2006

Is Firefox dropping the ball, like Netscape in 97?

Posted by Richard MacManus @ 1:22 pm

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Lately Netscape got overtaken by IE in 1997 - will Firefox in 06… I’ve been noticing a number of people criticising the performance of the latest versions of Firefox, since 1.5. Nik Cubrilovic, a developer at online storage company OmniDrive, is the latest to point out performance issues with Firefox 1.5 and above:

"I can’t remember ever being an Internet Explorer user, and for the first time I am really struggling with the alternative – Firefox in this case. Today with only a couple of hours of web surfing I have had it crash on me at least 4 times, the last time it just kept on eating up more and more free memory while the application wasn’t even running."

Nik goes on to say that the main problem is memory leaks in Firefox:

"The problem seems to be that Firefox will not free up the memory once you close the tab, and with some pages it just keeps eating and eating into the free memory while using up all the free CPU cycles." 

This is a crucial juncture for Firefox. Its Spread Firefox! campaign is going full throttle and Firefox has definitely picked up users and support over the last year. As mentioned on the Spread Firefox blog:

"We’ve got some serious accomplishments under our belts.

Over 10% market share worldwide for Firefox, achieved in just over a year.

A thriving community for Firefox marketing that parallels the growth of the Mozilla developer community. "

But with IE7 coming very soon, with many of the features that Firefox has (tabs, RSS integration, etc), now is not a good time for Firefox to lose developer support. I don’t mean to sound alarmist, but remember when Netscape got overtaken by IE circa 1997? From an article I wrote a couple of years ago in Digital Web Magazine:

"By 1997 Microsoft had finally caught up with and indeed overtaken Netscape in browser technology. While Netscape was the first to release its 4.0 browser, in June 1997, Microsoft soon trumped it with the release of IE 4.0 in October that year. IE 4.0 was widely seen as being a superior product—for example, IE’s stylesheet support was better than Navigator’s."

Well the signs are beginning to show that Microsoft may do it again - nearly 10 years later - and trump the technical leader in the browser wars. The ball is in Firefox’s court though and it’s by no means too late to stop the rot. Firefox desparately needs to keep the upper hand in browser innovation and performance.

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Weight of "innovation"  Justin James | 02/13/06
Plugins not included.  Jough | 02/13/06
and javascript happy web developers too ...  emilper | 02/14/06
Yup!  Justin James | 02/14/06
Yes, simple is better.  Anton Philidor | 02/14/06
I have to admit, with 69 extensions, I too  BillyG_n_SC | 02/13/06
Isn't it obvious?  tanstaafl_z | 02/14/06
What a hoot, 89 FF'ers!  BillyG_n_SC | 02/18/06
Too many extensions?  JDThompson | 02/14/06
Firefox does suck up a lot of memory  TyroneD | 02/13/06
This is a big impediment  JerryPM | 02/14/06
The majority don't have these problems  Greenknight_z | 02/15/06
That is reassuring  JerryPM | 02/15/06
Now that's evidence: "I can feel it!"  The King's Servant | 02/14/06
But his last point is right:  tjleeland | 02/14/06
RE:  markbn | 03/10/06
No FF extensions here  andycher2 | 03/13/06
Compatibility?  JDThompson | 02/14/06
Shill away, Tyrone  I am Gorby | 02/15/06
People assume everyone has their problems  np_ | 02/13/06
I don't get your point  tjleeland | 02/14/06
My point  np_ | 02/14/06
Point taken...  honeybl | 02/14/06
People also assume no one has any problem ...  markbn | 03/10/06
If you are having problems with FireFox....  paul351 | 02/13/06
Mo and OP  jsjag1 | 02/14/06
... or you may try using Opera  markbn | 03/10/06
IE7 isn't all that good, IMO  dtfinch | 02/13/06
Yes, both are ugly  RogerMcCook | 02/14/06
Ugly? So change it!  JDThompson | 02/14/06
Not Firefox. Blame Macromedia/Adobe  PhilippeV | 02/14/06
Yes, one bar is sufficient.  Anton Philidor | 02/14/06
I thought anyone can fix and improve opensource apps  tana99 | 02/13/06
Firefox 1.5 just sux  Roger Ramjet | 02/14/06
Umm...  JDThompson | 02/14/06
Firefox and Thunderbird 1.501 and 1.5  mesmd | 02/14/06
Firefox 1.5 really is a MEMORY HOG  thunderdome1 | 02/27/06
Maybe it's because you're a bunch of IE fanboy power LOSERS!  Mr. Roboto | 02/14/06
Maybe it would be even better if...  Cayble | 02/14/06
You might consider growing up  RogerMcCook | 02/14/06
He will...  JerryPM | 02/14/06
Here is a thought for you genius  prong@... | 02/14/06
Its most likely something wrong with your machine.  donkey_butter | 02/14/06
Tabbed Browsing  GenRabbit@... | 02/14/06
you're right  donkey_butter | 02/14/06
RE:  markbn | 03/10/06
Wrong,,,,,,  todbran@... | 02/14/06
Re: Its most likely something wrong with your machine.  JerryPM | 02/14/06
Opera who?  WebNinja | 02/14/06
It takes ...  RogerMcCook | 02/14/06
Word to the wise, anyone?  WebNinja | 02/14/06
Yep...  todbran@... | 02/14/06
OP yes  jsjag1 | 02/14/06
Editing  jsjag1 | 02/14/06
Opera HTML  checkmate101 | 02/14/06
Observations on Opera  checkmate101 | 02/14/06
Opera  JDThompson | 02/14/06
Extensions for Opera  rocka | 02/14/06
Extensions  JDThompson | 02/14/06
some stability..  unkonventional | 02/15/06
you forgot to mention  markbn | 03/10/06
yup, Opera  paulbianchi | 02/16/06
It loses stability on newer sites with lots of script/XSL/CSS  GreatInca | 02/14/06
If IE7 supports tabs and plugins i'll switch back  GreatInca | 02/14/06
RE:  markbn | 03/10/06
Get with it!  kjcreamer@... | 02/14/06
FireFox is working fine  HankFriedman | 02/14/06
Works great for me too, but...  JerryPM | 02/14/06
here's why IE is better  corticus | 02/14/06
Not all sites  dkoontz | 02/14/06
Active-X  JDThompson | 02/14/06
Sites that don't work in IE  np_ | 02/14/06
those are not websites  corticus | 02/14/06
Chicken or the egg?  jsjag1 | 02/14/06
It's not true that IE supports everything that FF doesn't  acamilov | 02/14/06
RIP ActiveX  CobraA1 | 02/22/06
Standards support?  JDThompson | 02/14/06
I doubt it  donkey_butter | 02/14/06
Expect CSS changes  Anton Philidor | 02/14/06
Firefox is better because - Extensions period.  donkey_butter | 02/14/06
Firefox is definitely more developer friendly  Elder Developer | 02/14/06
extensibility  markbn | 03/10/06
Correction, Netscape was sabotaged in '97!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/14/06
I'm still using Firefox 1.0.6 or 1.0.7  tracy anne | 02/14/06
IE who? Fire what?  Reged | 02/14/06
Avant  JDThompson | 02/14/06
Correct  Reged | 02/16/06
Avant  JDThompson | 02/16/06
Dunno  Reged | 02/17/06
FireFox - Netscape  jbaviera@... | 02/14/06
Firefox VS. Microsoft  as901 | 02/14/06
re: Firefox VS. Microsoft  dtfinch | 02/14/06
Firefox still looks good  petrasys@... | 02/14/06
IE7 is still miles away  acamilov | 02/14/06
No worries.......  GaijinIT | 02/14/06
I believe NOT...!  killuallnow | 02/15/06
Using Firefox  Lynne's Honey | 02/15/06
Firefox  Dave 628 | 02/15/06
Yeah downgrade thats smart  jerien | 02/16/06
NOW THAT OPERA IS FREE!  thatwes | 02/16/06
IE's got a dirty secret, though  CobraA1 | 02/22/06
If Firefox 1.0.x worked better for you...  Greenknight_z | 03/14/06
Dropped the ball on Memory  crescentdave | 03/14/06
And IE7 still has security holes, still waiting...  Boomslang | 03/29/06

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